tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9074791552575994852.post2307773377700568007..comments2023-06-29T06:58:02.415-07:00Comments on Jews of Malabar: Jews in the land of CoconutThoufeek Zakriyahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13957357219415958248noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9074791552575994852.post-76602554300434084512011-11-01T08:15:06.456-07:002011-11-01T08:15:06.456-07:00Yes you are right about mixing meat products with ...Yes you are right about mixing meat products with milk. but a three months before I had prepared a fish biriyani from Sarah aunties house but as she told i had omitted using curd instead I used coconut milk and a little bit of vinegar. and even instead of simple raitha, i had prepared Pulip ( Cochin Jewish usage for salad) flavored with cumin and soured with vinaigrette, which became her favorite thereafter. Even gammy uncle and Reema auntie joined to have that Kosher fish Biriyani prepared by a Muslim and Reema auntie was telling she was having biriyani after a long 6 years....<br />Really touched my heart...<br />By the way, back to topic they use to omit milk with fish also but not sure about the Cochin jews settled in Israel.Thoufeek Zakriyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13957357219415958248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9074791552575994852.post-32501650226762682011-10-31T22:17:14.913-07:002011-10-31T22:17:14.913-07:00Yes, Jews do not mix milk/ milk products with meat...Yes, Jews do not mix milk/ milk products with meat.. So all our Biriyanis made with curds/ yogurt in the masala is all alien to them..If they have a chicken dish on the table, there is no yogurt anywhere close by... But with fish, yes, in fact they make the yogurt when they have fish...Ushahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05691184351725155074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9074791552575994852.post-52267783963132149812011-10-31T08:59:22.421-07:002011-10-31T08:59:22.421-07:00Hai Usha,
research is just a medium to know about...Hai Usha, <br />research is just a medium to know about a topic but upto me each and every moment you spend with your mom is similar to that.... as it was a first hand info.<br />Well even i have not found much meat recipe with coconut milk in it. but their observance of Kashurath as told by Sarah cohen if they are having meat based dish for breakfast they will avoid tea with milk, instead black tea is prefered. similarly they use to omit milk in that way so instead of using milk products they used coconut milk as for Kadathala pasthel.Thoufeek Zakriyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13957357219415958248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9074791552575994852.post-91581786691917473092011-10-31T05:51:04.336-07:002011-10-31T05:51:04.336-07:00Interesting! Since I haven't done any researc...Interesting! Since I haven't done any research on the Jews, I cannot contribute much- whatever I know is from what my Mom told me and interaction with the Jews from my generation--I loved their cuisine and upto today cook a lot of them. Like it is mentioned above, coconut milk is used for kadathala, Meen Mollie, Used in a kind of fish salad using Chala and koorka.. I haven't really eaten any chicken preparations with coconut milk--but perhaps they made it during festivals. I'm hoping to eat a lot of them again on my visit to Israel shortly and I'm also interested to see if they have adapted to the changed circumstances.Ushahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05691184351725155074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9074791552575994852.post-61502165289967012822011-10-30T08:26:22.849-07:002011-10-30T08:26:22.849-07:00Hai CKR,
This topic talk more about the white jews...Hai CKR,<br />This topic talk more about the white jews, but more details about the old malabari jews is unknown to some extend that was why i used or rephrased an old proverb "unknown is an ocean and known is a drop, and we’ll discuss about those known drops…" as you suggest more research is required but we can create a story but real history is pretty hard to scrape out from the past.....<br />I am even writing a post with a fictional shade about the culinary history of jews of Kerala as it cannot be considered as history. It is a narration about their arrival and birth of a cuisine which I visualized in my mind or it can be called my perspective...<br />hope that will be interesting to you...Thoufeek Zakriyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13957357219415958248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9074791552575994852.post-37313126885245311862011-10-30T08:08:29.439-07:002011-10-30T08:08:29.439-07:00Hai Bala,
thanks for additional details on the ety...Hai Bala,<br />thanks for additional details on the etymology of Kerala. It literally added colors to the topic and I even thinks that the theory mentioned about the Kera alam, is very much acceptable but the origin of the word Keralam is still a mystery as both Kera alam and Chera theory of origin is acceptable. And according to me both are parallely suiting with the etymological explanations.Thoufeek Zakriyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13957357219415958248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9074791552575994852.post-82043773436075227552011-10-29T15:56:45.038-07:002011-10-29T15:56:45.038-07:00An interesting post! Cochin Jews who had arrived i...An interesting post! Cochin Jews who had arrived in the 1st Century would be expected to have assimilated coconut in their daily diet much more than has been described here. Or, are we discussing the adaptation of coconut by the later White Jews? As you suggest, more research is needed.A good beginning, indeed.Calicut Heritage Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14760552324718923006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9074791552575994852.post-29263661688598614452011-10-29T14:03:14.467-07:002011-10-29T14:03:14.467-07:00Good post, Thoufeek,
It is interesting to note th...Good post, Thoufeek,<br /><br />It is interesting to note that there is no mention of 'keralam' in ancient Sangam Literature, although Emperor Ashoka's edicts mention a south Indian dynasty named Kedalaputho in 261 BC. Roman historian Pliny called the western Indian coast Caelobothras in his Natural History and the fabled Periplus of the Erythraean Sea mentions Cerobothra ("Keralaputhra").<br /><br />One theory says that the name Kerala or Keralam is derived from two words the Sanskrit kera and alam. Kera means coconut tree (Cocos nucifera, family Palmae) and alam means 'land of' or 'abode of'. So, word Keralam means the Land of Coconuts<br /><br />Jews who were dispersed in the Caribbean region also made extensive use of the coconut (Cuba, Jamaica, Barbados, Suriname etc.) I have a friend, who calls himself a 'Jewmaican', and he usea coconut in many dishes, including famous desserts like the Coconut Toto, which is great with ice-cream!<br /><br />Bala Menon<br />jewsofcochin.blogspot.comBala Menonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18036168358270896869noreply@blogger.com